Posts by life is to short

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Attention ALL Abuse Victims & Their Families: Important Message!

by headisspinning in

candace conti's attorney has an important message for you:.

anyone with a case against the wbts for child abuse that (1) hasn't gone past the statute of limitations, which is 21 years, (2) that the accused is not the child's parent or (3) anyone who's child has been abused within the last two years and nothing was done, to please contact him asap.

it may take him a little time to get back to you.

life is to short

btt

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Anonymous Message to Watchtower

by jwleaks in

http://www.bit.ly/jwleaks-anonymous.

hello citizens of the world.

we are anonymous.. dear brothers and sisters,.

life is to short

btt

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The Watchtower Society Sends Known Sexual Predators To People's Homes - How Can We Alert The Public?

by DT in

i find it incredible that the public doesn't know this.

the watchtower society is showing callous disregard for the rights and safety of the public.. i really think we need to make an effort to get the word out.

the watchtower society and child abuse are in the news now, especially with the candace conti case and the recent actions of anonymous.. do you think we can get a newspaper interested in covering this story?

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DT

I find itincredible also JW are sending child molesters door to door!!! Hello wake up I want to scream. When I learned that the hall I was going to had three pedophiles in it I was shocked. Then this one pedophile insisted he was going to work door to door with my husband who was an elder because he was an elder. I was beyond ticked off. NO WAY IN HELL was that going to happen.

My husband was going to be passive aggressive and wait till the child molester actually did met for service and then just put him with a different elder. The pedophile had been saying he would go door to door for months since he moved into the hall and he never showed up just talked a huge talk. I was pissed off at just at him saying he was going to work with my husband. NO WAY was it going to happen! So I went to the CO and asked really if this pedophile truly did try to go out in service would he seriously would be allowed to? I told the CO flat out I did not want a child rapist in my car that I helped pay for. I had been molested myself as a kid and I did not want a man who had been in prison for raping a kid to ride in my car.

The CO told me I needed to get a handle on my emotions and yes the child molester COULD AND WOULD go door to door!

I even called Bethel and told them I had talked to many worldly people and no one wanted child molesters at their door. I then asked the "brother" on the phone' how are we better then the Catholic church?' The so called "brother" on the phone was pissed at me I could clearly tell in his voice and he said slowly to me 'Sister LITS are you saying the Catholic church is better then us.' I said slowly black to the "brother" that 'I handed out a tract showing a Catholic priest and that the tract said some religion condone child abuse. How are we better then the Catholic church?' The "brother" at Bethel repeated himself and said again to me 'are you saying the Catholic church is better then us.?' I said 'let me put it to you this way when was the last time you ever knew or heard of a pedophile Catholic priest calling on anyone you know? In my hall we have three child rapist going door to door.' The so called "brother" at Bethel said 'thank you for calling sister LITS and hung up on me.'

DT I have went to my local paper, the local the TV news. They wanted me to get them a victim someone to say they were harmed by the pedophiles. They do not want the story unless I can give them pictures and names of people and such. I tried to get pictures but the elders pulled one of the child molesters after I finally talked the TV news crew to try film him so they could get the story. Look at Barbara Anderson's Dateline in 2002. The show did film a pedophile "brother" going door to door. Yet that was again in 2002 and here we are 2012.

I just truly do not get it. I tell everyone I know about JW's sending child molesters door to door and everyone is ticked at it but that is as far as anyone seems to want to go. It is like well thank you for telling me and I will make sure not to let my kids answer the door to them anymore.

People are in their own little bubble and the JW's even though they think they are such huge fish in the pound are really not even on the radar of the world. Everyone I talk to thinks they are a stupid little harmless cult and that is how I have been treated. They are truly glad I have told them about the pedophiles going door to door but hey they have a soccer game to get their kids to.

People are just really busy in their own world, their own lives and JW's come around once or twice a year to bug them. So why worry about the silly little cult.

I am sorry I wish I could offer more but I feel like I have been hitting my head against the wall for the last couple of years feeling the same way you do, I just do not get it.

LITS

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Child Abuse Prevention Programs and the Great Teacher book

by Justitia Themis in

interestingly, i logged on yesterday and checked my pms.

nine days ago, skallywagger, aka, sf, sent me the following nasty message: um, we are not impressed with wt literature apologists.

please stop promoting it.. thank you, kindly.

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LOL right back

LITS

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Child Abuse Prevention Programs and the Great Teacher book

by Justitia Themis in

interestingly, i logged on yesterday and checked my pms.

nine days ago, skallywagger, aka, sf, sent me the following nasty message: um, we are not impressed with wt literature apologists.

please stop promoting it.. thank you, kindly.

life is to short

One more point before you try to throw out another straw man saying YET AGAIN that I hate all the book or as you posted in my thread on post #2184

(The thread title clearly intimates that the GB "ultimately" (i.e., in the end) places the onus on the victim to stop the abuse. Nothing in that article supports that contention.

I distinctly remember the book's release because, at the time, I had two young daughters. I reviewed this very chapter with them repeatedly. The information was almost identical to what they were receiving contemporaneously at school. The picture is dramatic, but it merely shows a child in an empowered position.

LITS's argument is specious. S/he has explained herself since, but that does not change the fact that the information she originally posted did not support her argument.

The WTBTS makes enough errors. Making arguments against it consisting of tenuous links at best does nothing but make 'apostates' look 'hysterical.')

Or your post #2185 (I am not just DESPERATE TO BRING DOWN THE JW"S!

I suspected the above. Unfortunately, desperate people rarely make reasoned decisions or put forth logical arguments, as evidenced by your most recent posts.

Lady Lee: I appreciate the work that went into your response; I simply disagree with many of your conclusions.

"How can you protect your body from people who do bad things like this?

LL wrote: Yes they are placing the responsibility on the child... So on top of the abuser telling them it is their fault this incomplete message places another layer of blame on the child.

It's an incomplete message because you have culled it from the rest of the paragraph that specifically says 'it's not their fault' if they do get abused. I agree that the opposite message would likely be given the reporting child by the elders/WTBTS, but the article itself is not a problem...in my opinion. However, if this article is a problem, then everything my girls were receiving at school was a problem also. And, I doubt that was the case.)

If at school your girls were being told Satan and his demons and the Devil and his demons try to get us to have sex as Chapter 10 of the book "It is important that we know what bad things the demons will try to get us to do. So think about it. What bad things did the demons do when they came to earth?- Before the Flood, they had sex relations with women, something that was not right for angels to do. Today the demons like it when people do not obey God's law about sex relations. Let me ask you, Who only should have sex relations?- You are right, only married people.Today some young boys and girls have sex relations, but this is wrong for them. The Bible talks about the male "genital organ," or penis. (Leviticus 15:1-3) The female genital parts are called the vulva. Jehovah created these parts of the body for a special purpose that should be enjoyed only by married people. It makes the demons happy when people do things that are forbidden by Jehovah. For example, the demons like it when a boy and a girl play with each other's penis or vulva. We don't want to make the demons happy, do we?-"

There is nothing being culled from this part of the book. It is very clear so that was really taught at your daughters school????? What was it a privite school?

You picked and choose what you wanted from my posts to make me look crazy as in this post of yours here #2188 (I am DESPERATE to have PEDOPHILES stop interacting with kids in this religion!

Desperation nonetheless >bad decision-making >illogical arguments.)

I am going to cut and past the book yet again here for all to read because I know you will say that I culled it from the paragraph to desperately try to make my point. Some of the paragraphs are OK in what they say but the parts that are wrong are POISON.

The GB who wrote this book did a good job because they have convinced ones like you that it is OK. It is like servicing a nice meal with just enough poison in it so kill some, not all and some are not affected at all or at least they think they are not like you.

Answer me why the picture of the child in the bedroom with the rapist coming at her? Why not a park or a store or some public place? Why her bedroom? Who is the man coming at her?

The ones who wrote this are not stupid, they know fully well that they are blaming the child. Why the words in paragraph three on page 170? Why? "However, sad to say, some grown-ups like to have sex with children. When they do, boys and girls may begin to do bad things that they have learned from these grown-ups. They also begin to use their sex organs in a wrong way. That is what happened a long time ago in the city of Sodom. The Bible says that people there, "from boy to old man," tried to have sex with men who had come to visit Lot.-Genesis 19:4, 5."

That is not culling anything it is very clear that the blame is on the child/

LITS

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Anonymous Message to Watchtower

by jwleaks in

http://www.bit.ly/jwleaks-anonymous.

hello citizens of the world.

we are anonymous.. dear brothers and sisters,.

life is to short

btt

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Child Abuse Prevention Programs and the Great Teacher book

by Justitia Themis in

interestingly, i logged on yesterday and checked my pms.

nine days ago, skallywagger, aka, sf, sent me the following nasty message: um, we are not impressed with wt literature apologists.

please stop promoting it.. thank you, kindly.

life is to short

I miss spelled here and I want to make this part very clear I should have used word then used your cut and paste expertise JT.

It is very confusing to a child, a baby really who has been raped as in the case of this picture by a full grown man who no doubt has groomed the child thus he is in her bedroom. The sex feels good, it feels good to be touched like that on their vulva Jehovah put that into us that feeling of liking to be touched their. And since most pedophiles do not just brutally rape the child right from the start and even if they did sometimes to a child it still feels sometimes good. All of these questions go through a childs mind. Why did that man touch them there on their vulva, even if it is a brutal rape? The will just touch themselves on their vulva or penis after it happens. It is totally confusing to a child. Then to have this book say what it does that they may begin to do bad things that they have learned from these grown-ups, to blame the child as this book does for touching themselves and to liken it to Sodom using the scripture at Genesis 19: 4,5. Is sick on the books part and on your part for defending the book.

The end of the book says "You do not have to be afraid, but you do need to be careful. When your parents warn you about people or places that could be a danger to you, you need to listen to them. If you do, you take away a bad person's chance to hurt you." What bad places? The the picture is showing the child in her bedroom? Why? And in the JW world the first place the parents go is the elders not the police, then the child is interrogated by the elders not the police, then the child molester the pedophile the man who raped the child this person is brought in then to confront the child in front of the elders. After this all happenes is when the police maybe called.

Why does the book not end with the way it truly happens in the religion? Why? Defend it all you want JT cut and paste to your hearts delight all of your big studies stuff but real life is the truth!!!!!!!!!!!! I LIVED IT

LITS

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Child Abuse Prevention Programs and the Great Teacher book

by Justitia Themis in

interestingly, i logged on yesterday and checked my pms.

nine days ago, skallywagger, aka, sf, sent me the following nasty message: um, we are not impressed with wt literature apologists.

please stop promoting it.. thank you, kindly.

life is to short

JT if you read my posts you will see that I DID NOT as you put it say

("LITS in particular objected to the anatomically correct terms, such as vagina, used in the book.")

I CLEARLY OBJECTED to the PICTURE showing a CHILD the age of five fending off her rape attacker when she is alone in her bedroom!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And trying to insanely convice a child that it just might work!!!!!! The child is all of maybe 50 pounds the man in the picture looks to be in is mid 40's to 50's? If the child is in her own home sitting beside her bed and some man is coming at her to attack her IN HER OWN BEDROOM!!!! who is going to STOP IT!!!!!!!!! What part of the picture do you like??????? If the book was so great then show the child out in a park or a store or some place where she could truly ask for help and GET THE HELP so she will not be RAPED but her own BEDROOM you have got to be joking me if you find that PICTURE at all OK!!!

I have a truly hard time believing any school as you clearly say would use the words Devil and his demons and Satan and his demons when teaching children not to allow people to touch their penis or vulva yet that is what the book does.

I also find it very, very, very hard to believe that any school would use what WT wrote here on page 170 of the great teacher book paragraph three"However, sad to say, some grown-ups like to have sex with children. When they do, boys and girls may begin to do bad things that they have learned from these grown-ups. They also begin to use their sex organs in a wrong way."

OMG did you really teach you two girls as you said in my thread you did this stuff. You said you read your babies this book over and over as it went right along with what the school you were sending you little girls to taught them. Did you really tell them your babies that if if they were molested they "MAY BEGIN TO USE THEIR SEX ORGANS IN A WRONG WAY." "THAT THEY MAY BEGIN TO TO THE BAD THINGS THAT THEY HAVE LEARNED FROM THESE GROWN-UPS." These kids were RAPED what part of that is so hard to get through to you. To tell a child that has been RAPED, RAPED, RAPED as it seems so hard to get through to you, that they may then begin to use their sex organs in a wrong way is OK WITH YOU! OMG It makes my head hurt!

I showed this book along with my thread to a school teacher friend of mine and showed her what you said was being taught in the schools. This teacher taught grade school in the Seattle WA area for years she said 'if they taught and showed a picture such as this they would have had parents demanding that the teachers be fired.' 'It just would never have happened.'

She said 'a picture showing a child in a PUBLIC place fending off a rapist is one thing but this picture shows a child in the most precarious setting! Her own bedroom a place that she as a child of maybe five should feel is the safest place in the world' But no! The WT clearly shows it is her OWN BEDROOM where the attack is trying to take place. IF this man is in her BEDROOM who is she going to TELL?????? Where are the child's parents. Why would the WT, Bethel, the GB pick a picture of a child in her bedroom of all places to show her fending off an attack?????It was not done because the writers of this book are stupid, it was done on purpose to put the blame on the child clear and simple. Why write in a book for CHILDREN that once they are raped that they may begin to use their sex organs in a wrong way??? Why?

OK LETS CALL THEM their penis and vulva it does not matter what words you use and you love the word vulva so we will use it to describe sex organs, penis vulva what ever the words you use it is still wrong to tell a child who has been molested that they may begin to play with themselves.

You know JT with all of your reports and big study stuff that you cut and past do you know that children who have been molested DO to start to play with themselves. They do that, yes they do. It feels good to the child. It is very confusing to a baby who was raped by as the picture shows by a full grown MAN sex feels good, it truly does. TO THEN BLAME THEN BLAME THE CHILD because they simple touch themselves again to get the feeling back is SICK ON BOOK PART and on YOUR PART because you are defending it.

I truly do not think you are as healed at you think you are.

LIKE I have said over and over and over if the picture was showing the child in a public setting trying to fend off a rapist as the picture is clearing showing her fending off a rapist by holding out her little hand to say NO then it would make sense. But is not showing a PUBLIC PLACE it is showing the little girls BEDROOM!!! And you find that OK!

I just honestly cannot wrap my mind around your thinking pasting and cutting studies report of yours!

PLEASE DO NOT SAY LITS SAID things like I do not like the word vulva when I did not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please quit throwing straw man to say things I did not say!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LITS

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How many JW pedofiles do you personally know?

by oldlightnewshite in

i was just thinking that out of the 200 jws that i actually know, at least 4 of them to my knowledge are pedophiles.

i know for a fact, through personal confidences.

that means, as far as my circle of jovo friends/acquaintances goes, 2% of them are kiddy fiddlers.. without mentioning names or details, how many do you know of for a certainty to be pedos, and what percentage does it work out at, considering all your circle of jovo friends?.

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btt

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Anonymous Message to Watchtower

by jwleaks in

http://www.bit.ly/jwleaks-anonymous.

hello citizens of the world.

we are anonymous.. dear brothers and sisters,.

life is to short

btt